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Feb
28

Eighteen years ago on a friday night just like this one, I chose to go to a dance.

For all you newcomers to my blog, here is the experience of how I met Vladimir.

I started this blog out talking about intercultural marriage, partially because it is a fairly uncommon experience and it would be an interesting topic. And partially because the issue was heavy on my mind. My mother-in-law was going to live with us.

Since then, my crazy Russian husband and I have actively started our own business, Geekatplay, and co-authored a book together.

Being married to someone from another culture is interesting enough, but just being married as long as we have been (17 years now) is also an achievement in this throw-away culture.

I hope the next part doesn’t get too preachy for some people. But it is a subject I love, because it has borne its sweet fruits so well for me.

I read a blog somewhere. The writer was so irritated at the modern proverb, “It takes a lot of work for a good marriage.” Her claim was that if it takes a lot of work, then it isn’t love and it isn’t a good marriage. I couldn’t disagree more. Even in a happy relationship, it only gets better with more work.

Love in an action verb. If we love someone, we serve them. Otherwise, it is just warm fuzzies and the wind can blow those away. Sometimes it isn’t easy. Sometimes it might not even be fair, but we all come with our different baggage and weaknesses so our loving spouse has their own chance to serve us in ways that are difficult and unfair.

Oh, don’t take this in any way to mean that anyone should bear abuse.

But neither should we expect everything to fall out perfectly of its own accord without forgiveness and fostering kind thoughts towards our spouse.

Anyway, dear reader, I think I got one of the really good guys. I am so very, very happy that 18 years ago I decided to dance instead of watch a movie.

Apr
16

I’ve been getting a lot of hits about intercultural marriage lately.

What is it that you want to know? It’s hard to do. I’ll tell you that much.

Sometimes a person doesn’t even know they’re getting into an intercultural marriage, since both might be the same race, income, and education level. But families can be very different.

But if you know you’re going to be married to someone not of your culture, there are a few things to think about. First of all, don’t do it just because it seems like it would be cool. It looks cool from the outside, but that wow factor quickly gets old. I don’t hear my husband’s accent anymore, therefore it is no longer exotic to me. But the differences are still something we stumble upon. And they can be harder to overcome than the typical marriage.

A successful intercultural marriage IS cool, but not because of what it looks like from the outside. It’s because of how much work it took to overcome the obstacles to communicate and understand each other well.

The experience of the marriage will probably be different for both. One spouse will live in the country of origin and the other will be a stranger in a strange land. It’s important for the spouse who is at home in the land to support the out of place spouse. Don’t make fun of or put down any lack of understanding about the culture. Try to learn some or all of your spouse’s native language. Bring the positive parts of the culture into your home if possible.

Food: In general, in any kind of family life, sharing a meal is an important bonding time. There are going to be dishes your spouse loves that you hate.  It is important to try to establish your palate for things your spouse likes. You won’t be able to do this for everything, but when you can’t it doesn’t mean their food is bad. Don’t put down their food or them because they like it. It may be one of the few things of their culture that they can experience in the new land. Find dishes that are good for everyone to eat at the table, and then situations where both can have the food you like which the spouse hates. A good way to do this is to go to restaurants occasionally, or eat the meal you want at a mealtime where you aren’t sitting down together such as lunch. 

Language: Support for the non-native language spouse will vary depending on how fluent they are in the new language. Sometimes they’ll never become fluent enough to get certain things done like important paperwork such as taxes, insurance, etc. (Of course, that can be hard for the native speaker!) Getting married to an immigrant probably means you’ll have to take on those kinds of tasks. But it is very important that your spouse becomes fluent enough in the new language to feel comfortable and make friends outside of your home. Help them come into social and safe situations where they can only communicate using the language of the new land. I’ve found this is especially troublesome for the stay at home mother who is in a new country. I’ve seen old women who’ve lived for decades who never learned the language. They are confined to a very limited social circle, though often these women are also married to men of their culture. But if you’re fluent in your spouse’s native language and they work at home, then it is very important you help them get out and have opportunities where they’re required to speak the new language.

But it is also important to establish a circle of friends who are native the country of your spouse’s origin. Depression is common among immigrants, especially in their first few years, and is a stage of culture shock. Finding as much social support as possible is very good, since these friends have all been there and done that. Very often among this group there will be other intercultural marriages, and friends like that can be good for both of you since they’re familiar with the particular differences you have to work with.

Story: Try to read literature and/or watch TV and movies from their land. Not only will it expand your horizons and help you understand their culture, but it will expand the cultural experience that you both share. I must admit, though, I couldn’t watch my husband’s favorite TV serial from Russia about the Russian mob. But that wasn’t because it was Russian, it was because I don’t like crime gang shows or action movies much. That’s going to happen, but again it isn’t because their stuff is bad.

The most important thing is to follow that golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Try to put yourself in the place of your spouse and then act towards them the way you would want someone to help you.

Oct
06

Sometimes, I wish there was less I wanted to do. For instance, I don’t decorate my house much, nor sew, nor do lots of crafty stuff that I actually think is fun. I enjoy this kind of thing. I want a pretty house decorated with things I made and kids dressed fantastically in clothes I made and a scrapbook and to give out handmade cards always. I want to make the place I live in appear to be the thing of beauty that is in our hearts.

But I want to write more.

One of my heroes is someone named Ellis R. Shipp. There is a lot that biography leaves out, of course. One of the things was that she was always, always curious about the world around her and always nurturing. Her taking on the calling to become a doctor was very much in line with her personality. Brigham Young called several women to go back east, learn medicine, and come back to practice and educate. It was actually a church calling extended to these women. Ellis was troubled to leave her children, but passionate about the work.

One of the reasons she could even dream of this career was that her husband was a polygamist. Ironic? Not what you thought polygamy was about? In this day and age where early Mormons practiced polygamy, women were encouraged to pursue their talents. In order to support such families, some of the wives had to work too. The sister wives more inclined to homemaking would take care of the children. These arrangements were actually very friendly towards women and their diversity of talents. The kinds of jobs they took were still very much of a ‘womanly nature’ though. Teaching, medicine and midwifery, sewing, etc. But the fact of the matter is that women under these circumstances were among the most progressive of all their peers across the world. They could vote well before their counterparts back east, until the US federal government took that right away for several years. They started the first women’s organization (and now the oldest). The Women’s Exponent (1872-1914 independent) and The Relief Society Magazine (1915-1970 church run, started after TWE failed due to financial difficulties) were magazines run by and for women.  

So, polygamists good? Well… the divorce rate was pretty high too. That says something about how it often turned out. In fact, Ellis Shipp’s sister wife, the second wife of her husband, divorced him. I am sure that one of the reasons Wilford Woodruff recieved revelation that it was time for this practice to stop, was because many men were practicing it unrighteously. By that, I mean, rather than marrying women to provide husbands for them (at a time when there were a shortage of men and lots of widows) it was becoming tradition to, say, have your daughter marry into an ‘old’ and well known (if not rich) polygamous family. Men were entering into polygamous marriages without being called to. You see, polygamy only works well under very limited circumstances and and when men are very righteous. Once those have expired and/or men start to act on their lusts, (Both of these happening at the time it was discontinuted in the LDS church) then polygamy becomes very destructive to women and it is time to stop. The ‘fundamentalist’ mormons of today who practice polygamy give us good examples of just how bad it can get when practiced unrighteously. (Kingstons, Greens, Warren Jeffs)

But even in modern times, it can be practiced righteously. I once heard a former police officer who had been investigating these societies in Utah say he had met a man who was “practicing righteously”. Basically, this was a Christian man who had married and was a good husband to several women who wanted marriage but were more or less unmarriagable due to disability or appearance. Odd and warm fuzzy like all at the same time, yeah?

So from a legal standpoint, should we allow polygamy? My answer? Yes. This article pretty much describes my thinking.) Should we practice it? No.

Sep
30

Recently, I watched part of a Russian documentary on mail order brides with my husband. He told me what the rest of it had shown. My initial reaction when he told me what he was watching was that it would be about how evil America was for exploiting these women. He said, no, actually, it was pretty even handed. Much of the explotation came from the Russian centered companies involved in recruiting the women. Some of the matches lead to ‘happily ever after’ as well, though there were a few horror stories. Sometimes it was the gold digging woman taking advantage of a well off shy man. Mostly it was abusive men looking for a wife who would tolerate it. 

Vladimir and I have witnessed both kinds of couples, though only one of them was through a matching service. One thing they all have in common is a way that Russian women seem to have been damaged by Russian culture as a whole. I think I can honestly say that I have not met one that didn’t show signs of being consistantly treated as a lesser person than men. Until now, this had only been personal observation of a relatively small group of people, but interestingly I found my observation validated in this show. A female psychologist on the show explained that Russian culture had produced women that are more submissive and dependent, causing them to be desirable to a certain subset of American men who are, for obvious reasons, having a hard time finding a woman in America that will have them. She went on to say that American women were generally more independent and strong than Russian women. She skirted around the real issue:

The number of women abused in Russia is astounding and deeply disturbing.

Amnesty International Women’s Day

How does one heal an entire culture from this?

My husband is the son of an abusive husband, but his mom wouldn’t tolerate it. She divorced her husband despite very harsh taboos. Now, I’m not one to condone divorce, but the taboo against divorce is still so strong that many women stay with abusive men. It isn’t just the taboo, though. They feel helpless because the problem is so widespread that they expect it from every man. So why bother? You know your monster, why switch for a new one?

An interesting aspect to this is that all of this taboo against divorce, all of this acceptance of abuse occured not under a religious construct but a decidedly anti-religious government. Church marriages were not recognized, nor was there any ceremony involved. The couples simply signed a paper, the government stamped it, and they were married. Women were equal in education and employment. This state was a secular dream.

And yet, a female PhD I know of tolerated a drunken, abusive spouse because that was the way of it. 

Independence? Again, the culture is against it. A woman can actually have a harder time at the banks and other beauracracies without a husband. My mother in law recently attempted to complete a real estate transaction and found it literally impossible without a bribe so high as to make selling the place not worth it. They would not have required such a bribe from a man (Though of course a bribe certainly would have been part of it). But apart from this socially imposed block against independence, she does not feel she can do this. She called us for every little thing. My husband spent hours on the phone with her, coaching her (and remember she was in Russia and he hasn’t been there for 17 years), telling her she could do it, going over things with her, only to have her call back after her particular errand and say she’d gotten scared or forgotten something.

This woman was abused not only by her husband, but her father before her. I am amazed she did leave her husband. But I strongly feel that her action nearly 40 years ago broke the cycle, because my husband is not abusive.

American women had it better than this even in the worst of times.

How does one cure an entire culture of this kind of sickness? It certainly would take generations to heal, but I don’t even know where one could begin.

Sep
11

I’ve seen both versions of the Stepford Wives, the one from the seventies and the more recent Kidman version. Neither viewing was very recent, but I’m going off what this movie has symbolized to us, now. The thing that this movie failed to note is that men are real people too. I’m also bothered by the way it seems to denounce the concept of a woman who works hard in the home.

First point: Men aren’t usually the caricatures portrayed in the movies, losing their minds at the prospect of having someone that looks like their wife, but is really a robot slave dream come true. If I have to explain that any more, then something is wrong. (Sadly, viewing mainstream media would suggest that something is, indeed, wrong with how at least some people view men.)

Second point: Us women, we do need to think for ourselves and we do need to develop our talents that don’t have to do with mothering or homemaking.

But I’ve think that in the rush to be liberated, feminist culture forgot what it meant to be truly partnered and armed with the skills we need to keep our family healthy, happy, and productive.

I’m talking about baking bread and cookies, making our own dinner, volunteering at school, carpooling, giving the husband a massage occasionally, creating a generous home where husband can say “I’m bringing someone over” or I can invite my own friends at the last minute without panic or shame, or plan things for a while and throw a party for friends and neighbors.

This kind of thing takes work, and it takes hard work that no one but a woman’s family and maybe some neighbors will recognize her for. This doesn’t make it a waste, though.

I started making bread recently, and I did it for a few reasons. It’s yummier, cheaper, and I become less dependent on the corporate machine. I am building a food storage for our family. Should that corporate structure fail us, and the circumstances for that aren’t too outrageous (earthquake or job loss), I will be prepared to provide for my family. Also, this kind of living is less polluting to the earth.

Working hard in the home does bring monetary value into the finances of the family, but instead of it being more money it is being able to spend less money.

So much of what it means to be a woman really is tied up in raising a family, whether we go to work or not. We can’t divorce ourselves from that.

But also, so much of what it means to be a man is also deeply tied up in raising a family.

Anyway, I’m just rant/rambling with very little point.

Well, no… here is the point: don’t be afraid to have true devotion for and work hard in the home for your husband and your children. It doesn’t make you a stepford wife.

Next in this line of thinking, but maybe not the next blog: One of my heroes was a polygamous wife who was a doctor.

Apr
28

I have been reading the book “Mommy Wars” by Leslie Morgan Steiner. I’m lazy now. I’ll put a link to it later, for now just look it up. She also has a column called On Balance that I am happily finding that I enjoy.

I was disappointed at first because it seemed to be that the essays were from paid writers living on the east coast without a clue as to what financial difficulty is. Steiner is one of these women, and her introduction was what bothered me at first and has bothered me the most about the book. I have read more, and while I found a slightly larger variety in experience, there were still only a couple who have truly known financial difficulty or have a religious background. I resent the idea that going to church every week is a sign of being a submissive housewife. I am very irritated that Steiner thinks women like me have “… a breezy Carol Brady belief that everything will always turn out fiiine. ”

What she didn’t seem to have gotten at the time she wrote that introduction is that some women stay at home as a matter of moral conviction that has nothing to do with yes-dearing our husband and everything to do with being a good mother.  

It isn’t that I trust that everything will turn out fine, or that I have faith that my husband will always be there.  My peace comes from knowing that I will be strong enough to overcome all the difficulties that might occur throughout my life and marriage.

My strength is not measured by how much money I make or how much political power I have. Those things are fickle measures and dissolve easily. It is measured by how well I do under difficult circumstances. My independence is not about my personal financial status but my abilities and my self confidence. Life is easier because I don’t have to be both mother and provider, but I could do it if I needed to.

Jun
01

J. Smith

That’s the name of the file. Male or female?

In English, we would be unable to tell. But in Russian, last names differ by gender.

It’s very simple, really. The last name of a female has an “a” added onto it.

Anton Chekov was married to Olga Chekova.

Boris and Arkady Strugatskys’ mother’s last name would have been Strugatskya.

One particular confusing bit for some English speakers acquainted with my family is my mother in law’s last name. Because she came over as a single woman, they used her last name as it was, with the ‘a’ at the end. Not only that, but the conversion from the Cyrillic to the Latin alphabet changed in the 16 years my husband had been here. When he came, French was the languaged used for conversion. When she came, English was. This has caused the spellings to be different. In essence, she has a different last name than her son in this country.

So, if you ever meet someone from Russia and hear them called 10 different names, now you’ll know.

May
31

The short answer to that question is: the father’s name. Vladimir was a bit suprised when I introduced my dad. He had assumed that my dad’s name would at least bear some resemblence to my middle name, but the two were completely unrelated.

Russians always have a patronymic for the middle name. For boys, an ending of ‘ovich’ is added to mean, basically, son of whoever. For girls, this is usually ‘ovna’.

Let’s put this into real life. Let us say, for instance, we have a father named Boris. He has a son and daughter named Konstantin and Anastasia, respectively. They would be called Konstantin Borisovich and Anastasia Borisovna.

People would actually call them this. Adding the middle name is another way of making it friendlier, but with a slightly more formal flair. OR, it is a way to express your disapproval. Chances are, if you are a Russian boy whose mom is calling you by both your first and middle names, you are in big, big trouble.

Another interesting occurance is that Russians will also readily call a friend by their middle name only. I’ve even heard my husband call his mother by her middle name.

So many different ways of naming someone can confuse an American, but when you get used to it, you find there can be a great deal of communication just by the name you call a person. It makes Russian, in many ways, more capable of subtlety than English.

Next: The last name. Not too difficult, but still not quite as straightforward as English.

May
26

I run.

My husband plays ping pong.

Now, lest you think this is mamsy-pamsy way to exercise, let me inform you that a number of his opponents are Chinese. These men set the bar for the game at Vlad’s office, so that even if he isn’t playing against someone Chinese, the play is pretty intense. 

So he was playing with a good friend of his, we’ll call him Buff Blond Geek, because cute anonymous nick names are the trend in blogging.  At least, we think he is a friend. BBG (another vital blogging technique: using only initials of CANNs). Anyway, BBG was serving and hit the ball the Vladimir hard, fast, and directly into Vlad’s eye.

From all accounts, my husband was thrown backwards into the wall by the incredible force of the blow.  Life flashed before his eyes, well… there were bright flashes, at least.  He worried that he might get a black eye, but being the plucky macho guy he is, he laughed along with BBG.

A coworker came in and wondered what was so funny. Recounting the event in florid detail was not enough, so BBG decided to demonstrate just how fantastic his serve had been.

All the way down to hitting Vladimir right in the other eye.

May
25

Amka, Vladimr, and the girls

Mother in law snapped this picture when she and Vladimir came back to the car after we attended the Living Traditions Festival (see last paragraph). We were hanging out while they had been talking to some other Russian couple there. 

This is my family. I’m a lucky woman.